TweetFollow Us on Twitter

Summer 91 - Letters

LETTERS

NEAT THREADS
I've just finished experimentally adding the Threads Package to my current application. I was amazed at how painlessly it could be added. What I felt was truly remarkable was that I use THINK C'sTM object-oriented extensions (which I refer to as C+-) along with the THINK Class Library, and it took less than 10 minutes to perform all the necessary conversions. Pretty neat.

I'm linking to ask whether you have any information about using the Threads Package with THINK C and TCL, and whether there are any special considerations involved in using threads with or inside methods. Just using them inside a method with a single instance, with no reference to instance variables, is demonstrably effective, but this case is logically indistinguishable from conventional code. I suspect that use with objects might require custom fSwapIn and fCopyContext routines to preserve this, the handle to the object's instance. In THINK C, this is internally kept in an address register.

If the default context-saving routines save A0-A4 register states as well as the stack, this should automatically be preserved. Whether registers are preserved does not seem to be documented in your otherwise nifty develop article. Logic says some must be preserved (A5 at least), but have you been prescient enough to save all of them?
--Kirk Kerekes

Thanks for your truly inspiring link! It really makes a difference for me to get feedback like this. I don't foresee any special problems threading THINK C code. All the data and address registers are saved. The FPU registers are saved only if you specifically request that they be saved at InitThreads time, and then only when you have an FPU. Remember to be careful about segment unloading.

I'm at your service if you need any help with threads. Feel free to contact me by telephone. My number is (408)974-0355.
--Michael Gough

MISSING SNIPPETS
Am I blind? Issue 6 of develop, page 88, talks about code snippets, but I can't find them anywhere. Are they inside a stack somewhere, or did they miss getting on the CD?
--Greg Johnson

You are not blind. Snippets did not make it onto that CD, but they've made it onto the Developer Essentials disc for this issue of develop. They're also available via AppleLink®, in the Developer Technical Support folder on the Developer Services Bulletin Board, as well as in the Dev Tech Answers library.
--Caroline Rose

MISSING TRUETYPE INIT
Recently I received Issue 6 of develop . I enjoy reading the articles and would like to make a comment.

Since Apple is distributing a TrueTypeTM INIT for System 6.0.7, why didn't you put it on the CD of Issue 6? I hope I can find it in the next issue even though System 7.0 is now available.
--Tetsuya Ishikawa

I hope we can fulfill other people's wishes as easily as we did yours. The TrueType INIT for System 6.0.7 is now on the CD in the folder with the System; an oversight kept it off of the last CD.

As with all old System software, we're providing this INIT so you can test your software with it (just in case you've got some as-yet-unupgraded users). When testing with the TrueType INIT, make sure you use it only with System 6.0.7; that's the only System it's designed to work with.

Happy testing,--Caroline Rose

DISAPPOINTING CD
I must admit to being disappointed with the CD-ROM disc that came with Issue 6: Tech Notes "stuck" back in 12/90, no Volume VI of Inside Macintosh , just HyperCard® alone rather than a developer's edition, no System 7.0. Should I expect that my perception that the disc is out-of-touch, out-of-date, and insufficient will be permanent? That is, develop is not really meant to be a real developer-support package for the individual (noncorporate) developer operating on a shoe string? Thanks for any insight you can give me.
--Pete Roberts

I certainly hope your perception that the disc is out-of-touch, out-of-date, and insufficient will not be permanent. We collect and press as much as we can, but because we want subscribers to get develop regularly, we don't hold the presses for software or documentation that isn't quite ready yet, as was the case last time for System 7.0 and Inside Macintosh Volume VI. They're both on this issue's disc. The Tech Notes on Issue 6's disc were actually updated through February 1991. (Well, the stack version was, anyway; the MacWrite® version wasn't, and we apologize for the oversight.)

As for the developer edition of HyperCard, Claris Corporation no longer allows us to distribute it.

We'll continue to do our best to give you the latest, greatest information possible!
--Caroline Rose

WHERE'S LOUELLA?
Congratulations, Caroline, on your new job as Editor-in-Cheek of develop . I hope you have as much fun at it as Louella had.

Thanks for the riddle at the end of your first editorial. We've been scratching our heads over it for a while. The closest thing to a guess we can come up with is that you used either a tablet or some other alternative text entry device. You probably were able to emulate the mouse as well as the keyboard. Why? Perhaps to demonstrate that handicapped people can have access to the Macintosh.

A humble suggestion: I've saved all the CD-ROMs that have come with your magazine ( develop the CD, aka develop , the disc, aka Developer Essentials ). How about designing inserts for the CD cases that some of us keep their CD-ROMs in? Something we could print on thick paper, cut out, and stick in the plastic boxes to label the contents. Keep up the good work!
--Lyle D. Gunderson

P.S. I tried to send mail to Louella at pizzuti1@applelink.apple.com, but your system denied knowing about her. Any help you could give me in addressing e-mail to her would be very much appreciated.

Thanks for the nice letter. I'm having more fun than I've ever had on a job.

Regarding the answer to my riddle: If you've read this issue's editorial, you know by now that you were barking up the right tree. Other readers who replied did not think of access by people with physical limitations.

I hope I've succeeded in doing some consciousness raising here. Your idea about the insert is a good one. We didn't manage to get it onto this issue's disc, but we'll try for next time. It sounds as if you're holding on to all the old discs. If so, be careful about using stuff on them, because we update software and generally attempt to correct the mistakes of the past with each new disc.

Louella decided that there was after all no job as much fun as being editor of develop, so she retired to raise flowers in Holland. Just kidding. You can reach her at louella@applelink.apple.com.
--Caroline Rose

POLES AND FONTS
Two things I'd like to mention after reading Issue 5 (Volume 2, Issue 1):

First, I'm not sure that the answer to the question "What is the difference between North and West?" is completely correct. To my mind, there are two points on the globe from which one would be hard pressed to go further West (or East): the North and South Poles.

Second, may I make a typographic recommendation? Please use Courier for "computer voice" (program listings and the like). Prestige Elite is ugly and too lightweight. The Bitstream ® Courier family has a good regular weight and a bold that would be compatible with your Futura headings.

Oh, and without being too dogmatic, I disagree that a spacious layout is necessarily more effective or attractive.
--Toby Thain

You're right, we mistakenly left out the South Pole. Those PR folks for the North Pole do a really good job at making you forget that the other pole exists at all (especially in December, and that was after all our Winter issue). Thanks for the correction.

I'm not sure I agree that Prestige Elite is ugly, but it does bother me that its hyphen (what's typed for a minus sign in code) is so narrow and its O (Oh) and 0 (zero) are not very easily distinguishable. So in this issue we have indeed switched to Bitstream Courier, which solves these problems and has the right weight.

The beauty of a particular font or layout is surely in the eye of the beholder; I've heard at least as many positive responses as negative ones to the choices we've made for develop. We hope that you and others will keep giving us specific feedback so we'll know what's working and what isn't.
--Caroline Rose


COMMENTS We welcome timely letters to the editors, especially from readers reacting to articles that we publish in develop . Letters should be addressed to Caroline Rose (or, if technical develop -related questions, to Dave Johnson) at Apple Computer, Inc., 20525 Mariani Avenue, M/S 75-2B, Cupertino, CA 95014 (AppleLink: CRose or Johnson.DK). All letters should include name and company name as well as address and phone number. Letters may be excerpted or edited for clarity (or to make them look like they say what we wish they did). *

 

Community Search:
MacTech Search:

Software Updates via MacUpdate

Latest Forum Discussions

See All

Top Mobile Game Discounts
Every day, we pick out a curated list of the best mobile discounts on the App Store and post them here. This list won't be comprehensive, but it every game on it is recommended. Feel free to check out the coverage we did on them in the links... | Read more »
Price of Glory unleashes its 1.4 Alpha u...
As much as we all probably dislike Maths as a subject, we do have to hand it to geometry for giving us the good old Hexgrid, home of some of the best strategy games. One such example, Price of Glory, has dropped its 1.4 Alpha update, stocked full... | Read more »
The SLC 2025 kicks off this month to cro...
Ever since the Solo Leveling: Arise Championship 2025 was announced, I have been looking forward to it. The promotional clip they released a month or two back showed crowds going absolutely nuts for the previous competitions, so imagine the... | Read more »
Dive into some early Magicpunk fun as Cr...
Excellent news for fans of steampunk and magic; the Precursor Test for Magicpunk MMORPG Crystal of Atlan opens today. This rather fancy way of saying beta test will remain open until March 5th and is available for PC - boo - and Android devices -... | Read more »
Prepare to get your mind melted as Evang...
If you are a fan of sci-fi shooters and incredibly weird, mind-bending anime series, then you are in for a treat, as Goddess of Victory: Nikke is gearing up for its second collaboration with Evangelion. We were also treated to an upcoming... | Read more »
Square Enix gives with one hand and slap...
We have something of a mixed bag coming over from Square Enix HQ today. Two of their mobile games are revelling in life with new events keeping them alive, whilst another has been thrown onto the ever-growing discard pile Square is building. I... | Read more »
Let the world burn as you have some fest...
It is time to leave the world burning once again as you take a much-needed break from that whole “hero” lark and enjoy some celebrations in Genshin Impact. Version 5.4, Moonlight Amidst Dreams, will see you in Inazuma to attend the Mikawa Flower... | Read more »
Full Moon Over the Abyssal Sea lands on...
Aether Gazer has announced its latest major update, and it is one of the loveliest event names I have ever heard. Full Moon Over the Abyssal Sea is an amazing name, and it comes loaded with two side stories, a new S-grade Modifier, and some fancy... | Read more »
Open your own eatery for all the forest...
Very important question; when you read the title Zoo Restaurant, do you also immediately think of running a restaurant in which you cook Zoo animals as the course? I will just assume yes. Anyway, come June 23rd we will all be able to start up our... | Read more »
Crystal of Atlan opens registration for...
Nuverse was prominently featured in the last month for all the wrong reasons with the USA TikTok debacle, but now it is putting all that behind it and preparing for the Crystal of Atlan beta test. Taking place between February 18th and March 5th,... | Read more »

Price Scanner via MacPrices.net

AT&T is offering a 65% discount on the ne...
AT&T is offering the new iPhone 16e for up to 65% off their monthly finance fee with 36-months of service. No trade-in is required. Discount is applied via monthly bill credits over the 36 month... Read more
Use this code to get a free iPhone 13 at Visi...
For a limited time, use code SWEETDEAL to get a free 128GB iPhone 13 Visible, Verizon’s low-cost wireless cell service, Visible. Deal is valid when you purchase the Visible+ annual plan. Free... Read more
M4 Mac minis on sale for $50-$80 off MSRP at...
B&H Photo has M4 Mac minis in stock and on sale right now for $50 to $80 off Apple’s MSRP, each including free 1-2 day shipping to most US addresses: – M4 Mac mini (16GB/256GB): $549, $50 off... Read more
Buy an iPhone 16 at Boost Mobile and get one...
Boost Mobile, an MVNO using AT&T and T-Mobile’s networks, is offering one year of free Unlimited service with the purchase of any iPhone 16. Purchase the iPhone at standard MSRP, and then choose... Read more
Get an iPhone 15 for only $299 at Boost Mobil...
Boost Mobile, an MVNO using AT&T and T-Mobile’s networks, is offering the 128GB iPhone 15 for $299.99 including service with their Unlimited Premium plan (50GB of premium data, $60/month), or $20... Read more
Unreal Mobile is offering $100 off any new iP...
Unreal Mobile, an MVNO using AT&T and T-Mobile’s networks, is offering a $100 discount on any new iPhone with service. This includes new iPhone 16 models as well as iPhone 15, 14, 13, and SE... Read more
Apple drops prices on clearance iPhone 14 mod...
With today’s introduction of the new iPhone 16e, Apple has discontinued the iPhone 14, 14 Pro, and SE. In response, Apple has dropped prices on unlocked, Certified Refurbished, iPhone 14 models to a... Read more
B&H has 16-inch M4 Max MacBook Pros on sa...
B&H Photo is offering a $360-$410 discount on new 16-inch MacBook Pros with M4 Max CPUs right now. B&H offers free 1-2 day shipping to most US addresses: – 16″ M4 Max MacBook Pro (36GB/1TB/... Read more
Amazon is offering a $100 discount on the M4...
Amazon has the M4 Pro Mac mini discounted $100 off MSRP right now. Shipping is free. Their price is the lowest currently available for this popular mini: – Mac mini M4 Pro (24GB/512GB): $1299, $100... Read more
B&H continues to offer $150-$220 discount...
B&H Photo has 14-inch M4 MacBook Pros on sale for $150-$220 off MSRP. B&H offers free 1-2 day shipping to most US addresses: – 14″ M4 MacBook Pro (16GB/512GB): $1449, $150 off MSRP – 14″ M4... Read more

Jobs Board

All contents are Copyright 1984-2011 by Xplain Corporation. All rights reserved. Theme designed by Icreon.